Clients with alcohol problems – many who had severe cravings for alcohol and tried a 12-step program to quell alcohol cravings – have come to see Rhonda Lenair, renowned prophet and medical intuitive for over 2 ½ decades to experience the phenomenon through the Self(s) Healing Experience she offers. All of the clients in these in-depth interviews suffered with various alcohol problems. Today, they’re free: call Barry to join them in their freedom.

Self(s) Healing Stories

In-Depth Client Interviews

Can you tell me a little about yourself?
I live in the country and work for my animals—I have seven cats, 2 dogs and 2 horses. I’m also interested in spiritual healing and want to start a clinic.

What was your family history as it related to alcohol?
None.

How long had you been drinking before meeting Rhonda?
Ever since high school, but I didn’t really drink a lot until the last 8 years or so. I’m going through a divorce, so I was doing the numb-out routine.

Now that you’re not "numbing out", how do you cope?
I think I’ve become this bitch—I scream and yell. But at least I’m not stuffing it down. Before, I’d just ignore what was happening in my life and that I was unhappy. And I thought, "I can live like this." And then I finally decided, "No, I’m not going to." And that really came to the forefront after I quit drinking. This is absolutely the worst, most hellacious time in my life, and I’m doing it all without drinking—and that’s really a miracle.

Could you describe the nature of your drinking?
About 10 beers a day. I did most of my drinking in the afternoon. I’d start drinking about 3:30 and drink till about six. I really didn’t want to quit drinking.

Have you tried any other programs to stop drinking?
No

How did you learn about The Lenair Technique?
I had read an article about Rhonda in a holistic publication called Healing Options. Shortly after I read the article I picked up the phone. I just wanted to see what the heck Rhonda was doing. I didn’t want to admit to it, either, and when I called, Barry asked me what was my addiction. And I thought, oh God, I’ve got to tell him something and I said, "Beer could be an issue." Barry has such a nice way about him. He told me a little bit about what she did. I figured it’s a good time. There’s a reason I’m calling. I might as well just sign up and do it.

Were you skeptical about this type of treatment?
I was more curious than skeptical. I didn’t want to stop drinking—I wanted to know what she’s doing. I’m into other alternative stuff and thought wow, this sounds really good. Maybe she could teach me how to do this. I just wanted to see what this was all about. But I got the bonus of quitting drinking in the process.

Why did you want to stop?
I didn’t really want to stop drinking because I enjoyed it. It was my lifestyle. I’d been drinking beer ever since college. I tried to quit five times on own but it never really worked. I stopped drinking for anywhere from a couple of days to maybe two months. But I’d always start again.

Once you heard about The Lenair Technique, how long did it take you to make an appointment?
I picked up the phone immediately, but it took a while to get in to see her because they were so busy.

Once you scheduled your appointment, did you have any apprehension or fears about going through with the program?
I was scared to go in there. I thought, "What am I doing here?"

What was your experience at the first treatment?
I wonder myself what she did to me. I went into her little room and she sat in her chair and told me what was going to happen. I couldn’t hear a thing she said to me. This is really odd. I was nervous. But after she sat down, all I saw was this 6 to 8" of gold around her head and shoulders and it wouldn’t go away. So I kept looking away and looking back. And I was so into that aura that I wasn’t hearing what she said. So I don’t know what she said to me. She had me lie down on the couch, guided me through a journey, and put her hands on my forehead. And she started talking fast—bits and pieces started coming out about my neck, this vertebra or that hip—and every one of them was right. And then names would come up, or at this time in your life this happened. And every one of them was right on.

After it was over, I was really la la. I thought how the hell am I going to drive four hours? Did you stop drinking after your first treatment?
Yes.

Did you have any physical cravings?
I walked out that door and I haven’t had the desire since. And that’s just a total miracle to me. Because every day for about as long as I can remember I’d want a beer about four o’clock. Now, even with all I’m going through with my divorce, I still don’t have the urge to drink.

I am more interested in sugar now—you get all that sugar in alcohol. But I haven’t gained any weight. Rhonda gave me this list of vitamins and tinctures and I did everything she told me. She put me on a detox program. I even had all the old fillings taken out of my mouth because she said I had metal toxins. It cost a fortune.

What was your experience at the second and third treatments?
I didn’t have any more issues with alcohol, so she helped me on issues with my husband. That didn’t work anywhere near as well as the alcohol. I didn’t really need the third session, but it was part of the deal, so I went. Rhonda is so caring. You’re not just a number who walks through the door. She really cares about you as a person. And she makes no judgments.

They give you a tape to listen to if you feel you are going to have a set back, and on one side it describes what she does, and I’ve listened to that side, but I didn’t need the other.
People think it’s a lot of money—but look how much I’m saving not buying beer.

I think of all those people who spend all that time and money in dry-out clinics and you can have it finished in 20 minutes. It was amazing. I talk about it all the time.

How in-tune was Rhonda with all aspects of your physical and emotional being?
She was right on about everything. Right on with all the medical intuitive stuff. Every word of it. There are no secrets with Rhonda. One of the times I went back she told me about a wasp nest in one of my barns—and I had just seen it that morning.

How long has it been since your last treatment? Have you had any cravings for alcohol?
It’s been one year today. All my friends can’t believe it. I don’t know what to tell you. I just think she’s the greatest.


ELIZABETH

Can you tell me a little about yourself?
I’m the department manager of a large retail store.

What was your family history as it related to alcohol?
My mother is a recovering alcoholic, although I never looked at her as an alcoholic. After all of the children went away to college, she started drinking very heavily in the evenings. She stopped drinking on her own.

How long had you been drinking before meeting Rhonda?
Thirty years. Started drinking when I was 13. I didn’t drink every day, but that’s when I had my first drink.

Could you describe the nature of your drinking?
I was an every day drinker, each day I drank 1/5th of vodka for 10 years. I managed to function, but I felt pretty well drained. To use a sports analogy, I got used to playing with my ankles taped— which is playing with a previous injury.

How did drinking impact your life?
It’s been 22 years since I graduated from college. The first 12 years I had the same job. The last five years, I’ve had five different jobs. So it affected my career. I used to be a white-collar employee in the financial world—a banker. Then in 1997 my wife committed suicide. I just kind of I laid down and died for 6 months then quit my job. I worked as consultant in financial arena for about 6 months but just couldn’t get myself together. Then in early 1998 I went through a 30-day in-house treatment. That was my fourth 30-day in-house treatment program in 10 years. So I knew I had a problem.

Did these programs help you stop drinking? For how long?
I stayed sober for 60-90 days, and then I’d go back to drinking again. I had really just given up on the idea of getting sober at all.

Have you tried any other programs to stop drinking?
I tried AA. It works for a lot of people, and maybe it would work for me if I were a conformist. But I don’t like being told what to do, and I didn’t like going to meetings every night. So I was just resigned to the fact that I was not going to be sober. I don’t think that any alcoholic wants to stay a drunk once he knows he’s got a problem. He just doesn’t know how to get out of a downward spiral.

Even when you’d stopped drinking, did you still have cravings for alcohol— physically or emotionally?
Yes, every day. It was awful.

Were you skeptical about this type of treatment?
Yes. I thought it would be hocus-pocus.

How did you learn about The Lenair Technique?
My dad saw Rhonda on TV one night late January or early February of this year. My dad called and asked it I’d consider it and I said, "I’ll do anything." So he picked up the phone and made the appointment and I reviewed the web site.

Once you heard about The Lenair Technique, how long did it take you to make an appointment?
We acted immediately, but it took 6 weeks to get in to see her.

Why did you want to stop?
I couldn’t live with alcohol and couldn’t live without it. Without being locked into a treatment center, I couldn’t go by a liquor store without going in. The craving would overtake me. My boss knew I had a problem because I wouldn’t always show up at work on time and he pinpointed it and asked me if I had a problem and I told him I did. I was very much a closet drinker. I didn’t have a social life and was very much of a recluse. My insides were falling apart. I would wake up every morning feeling like I had the flu every day. Then about six months before I quit drinking I started waking up with the dry heaves. I spent the time before I went to work trying to stabilize myself. On days that I didn’t have to go to work, I’d start drinking early so I felt better.

What was your biggest fear about stopping drinking?
Boredom. What was I going to do with myself?
Once you scheduled your appointment, did you have any apprehension or fears about going through with the program?
No. Before I left to see Rhonda, I took the time to see a doctor for a physical. He was very skeptical. He gave me a liver test. I have a cast iron liver, because it was fine.

What was your experience at the first treatment?
March 21, 2000. I’ve been sober for 60 days. I sort of feel like an old man with an aching body. But I’m mentally clear. I feel great.

Could you describe your first treatment?
When I went into Rhonda’s treatment room, she knew nothing about me other than my name and that I had a problem with alcohol. I sat down and she immediately started reading me. You could just sense that she could see right into me. We shook hands and she held onto my hand for a minute to feel my vibrations I guess. She really didn’t say what she did. Barry explained it to me more than she did. Rhonda and I talked briefly about alcohol in that that was the problem I wanted to have removed. Then I laid down on the couch and she put her hand on my forehead. She told me things about myself that nobody would know but me. She went from my toes to the top of my head and picked out every ache or pain…old football injuries, car accident wound, arthritis, my middle knuckle on my right hand, types of fillings in my teeth, she read everything. She picked up careers, timeframes. When I walked out of my session with her, I didn’t know what happened, but I was much calmer. I just knew that she knew who I was.

What outcome were you looking for?
I wanted to live a normal life, and be a productive member of society. I wanted to feel that I could trust myself. I wanted to be able to function without alcohol and still enjoy the world around me and start to enjoy the beauty that’s out there.

Did you stop drinking after your first treatment?
Yes.

Did you have any physical cravings?
No—they were almost immediately removed.

I stopped drinking two days before I went to see her because they ask you to go without so you walk into the treatment really craving alcohol. Also, I wanted to drive across the country sober. But before I left, I took a couple of days off from work to juice myself up pretty good. So Sunday when I drove up to New England, I felt pretty rotten but I already had a sense of relief that I was going for help. While I was pessimistic and not sure of what I was getting into, I was also hoping I’d win the lottery on the other end. Something did happen. I don’t know what, I can’t explain it.

I saw Rhonda on Tuesday. It had been three days since I had a drink and was feeling pretty rotten. Withdrawal symptoms last three to five days, so I had probably gone through the worst of my withdrawal symptoms before I went in to see her, but I was still shaking.

Did you have any withdrawal symptoms? If you did, how did they compare to other times you might have stopped drinking?
After seeing Rhonda, I didn’t have any withdrawal symptoms. I did other times I quit drinking—I had cold sweats, couldn’t sleep, and my muscles were all fighting with each other. I quit smoking at the same time I quit drinking. I did that on my own and still crave cigarettes.

What was your experience at the second and third treatments? Did Rhonda need to reinforce the treatment or did she move on to another aspect of your life/health?
I had my first treatment on Tuesday. Then on Wednesday I went sightseeing. I had my second treatment on Thursday—and Rhonda did another hands-on treatment. We went more into my concentrating on what I wanted the outcome to be and what would happen if I didn’t quit. I felt better every day. On my third treatment on Friday, there was more emphasis on what to do if I felt like drinking. She gave me a tape. I fortunately haven’t had the need to use the emergency technique.

If you were involved in a 12-step program before, do you feel the need to continue with it?
No. I don’t even think about drinking.

How did this compare to other treatments? Was stopping drinking easier through this process easy compared to other things you’ve tried?
Much easier. They aren’t even comparable. 30-day treatment centers aren’t hard. They bring you off the alcohol with Librium, so they take the pain away coming off, and you’re eating food again and enjoying it. So being inside a treatment center is easy. But when I came home, I felt like the eyes of the public were upon me. People would ask where he’s been for a month. Oh, he’s been in a treatment center. It was always embarrassing.For this situation, I just went on a one-week vacation to Massachusetts, as far as explaining it to anyone.

Did Rhonda provide you with helpful information beyond stopping the cravings for alcohol?
I’ve taken some vitamins that I can find easily. I haven’t gotten around to the dandelion greens. But I am eating better.

How has your life and the lives of those close to you changed since you’ve been through this program?
Since I’ve stopped drinking, I’ve straightened out my financial situation and improved my status at work. My performance is notably better. I spend more time coaching my staff, and I take more pride in my department. Because I don’t feel bad, I don’t ache. The relationship with the woman I live with is much better. I’m there. I’m here 24 hours a day. When I was drinking, my mind was elsewhere.

Would you recommend The Lenair Technique to others who are struggling with alcohol addiction? What would you say to them to encourage them to give up alcohol and try this program?
Yeah, I would. 10 years ago when I was introduced to the fact that I had a problem, I don’t know whether she would have helped me, or that I would have given her the time of day. But now I was desperate.

I’ve been sober for 60 days and that’s not a long time. I’ve done 60 days before. But the difference was that in AA, all we talked about was alcohol. I kept telling myself I didn’t want alcohol, but that’s all you talk about for an hour. Now I don’t think about it. I see alcohol when I go out to a restaurant, and in one way it seems familiar, but in another way it’s foreign to my thought process.

Rhonda’s rearranged my electrical currents. She warned me to stay away from the back of a refrigerator—they have a very high electrical output field. And to not eat a lot of microwaved food because it’s prepared with a lot of electronic energy.

I can’t explain it. I know there are things about me that are different, and that I just don’t crave alcoholic. My doctor is amazed. He said, "You’re a totally different person."All I can say is that Rhonda must be some kind of an angel.


BRUCE

Can you give me a little background about yourself?
I am a musician. I play instruments, compose, write arrangements for other people, remix, and do engineering. Work for myself and do freelance work for record companies and individuals. Single mom raising 5 daughters.

What was your family history as it related to alcohol?
I was adopted. I know now, but didn’t know then, that alcohol problems did run in the family.

How long had you been drinking before meeting Rhonda?
I started drinking as a teenager, but it worked itself up into problem 2-3 years ago until it was out of control.

Could you describe the nature of your drinking?
I woke up and drank in the morning. Guinness for breakfast. That’s how it started 14 years ago. I was having one of my kids and was in London, and they suggest when you’re pregnant or nursing, you drink a pint of Guinness a day. I just took it a little further.

I drank maybe 12 bottles a day. I didn’t put on a lot of weight, but just had that puffy alcohol look. I suppose. I don’t really remember. In fact, once you get treated and it’s gone, you tend to forget.

How did drinking impact your life?
I functioned. I did everything you’re supposed to do. I’m not sure I did it very well.

I just didn’t want to feel that way any more. I felt ill. I don’t know if you’ve ever had a hangover, but I felt psychotic. I had a hangover every day, and if I didn’t drink immediately, it was intolerable.

Have you tried any other programs to stop drinking?
I tried AA and was in it for a couple of years. And it worked for a while, then I would eventually go back to drinking. It was all about trying and your will. I’m still friends with a lot of people in AA but don’t tell them about the Lenair technique because I don’t want to be a proselytizer.

Even after you’d stopped drinking, did you still crave alcohol—physically or emotionally?
Yeah, I think so.

How did you learn about The Lenair Technique?
I read an article in a holistic paper. I also saw an article in The Boston Globe and went on their web site.

Were you skeptical about this type of treatment?
Oh yeah. Totally. I was very skeptical of any kind of new age, anything that sounds like crystals. It sounded like Rational Recovery and those types of things.

Why did you want to stop?
I just couldn’t take it anymore. Everybody was angry. I was angry. It was way out of control

What was your biggest fear about stopping drinking?
I didn’t really have any fear about stopping drinking—I was just afraid that I couldn’t do it.

Once you heard about The Lenair Technique, how long did it take you to make an appointment?
9 months

Did you stop drinking after your first treatment?
Yes. The obsession was gone, completely lifted. I wasn’t actually thinking about it so much then because I was in a sort of a fog. I didn’t feel any craving or withdrawal symptoms. Just a fogginess of the mind.

Did you have any physical cravings?
No. I went to a bar with my brothers and I felt no desire, not even a twinge. Nothing. It’s completely gone for me. Sometimes I break it down and intellectually think "maybe I do," and I can’t even hook myself into it that way. Nothing is there. It’s completely gone for me.

Did you have any withdrawal symptoms?
None at all.

During your first treatment you also received a medical intuitive consultation as part of the treatment. What type of information was provided to you then? Was it helpful?
Rhonda gave me some information that was just really good for me to hear, because I knew about it, but nobody else confirmed it.

Could you describe your first treatment?
You don’t really talk to her. When I first met Rhonda and she was sitting in that chair in the corner, you get that feeling like you’re in the presence of someone who is really bigger, it’s like being in the room with the Dalai Lama or someone. She’s really got that open-heart thing. I trusted her. And I trust no one.

When you’re with Rhonda, you feel pretty relaxed. You catch it from her. I’ve been to a couple of people who do polarity and claim to be knowledgeable about being medically intuitive, but they are all full of shit. I don’t have much faith in those kinds of things—you know, where the ego is just so involved.

She takes somebody back to before the time that the pattern of alcohol set in. This is how she explained it. It’s fascinating. There’s nothing shady about her at all. She’s real. I think she’s a healer. Knowing Rhonda, I’d read anything about her. But if I didn’t know her, what I’d want to read is a story about her life. You don’t want to hear about a technique. She said it’s possible to teach others. I want to know how she would go about teaching others. I want to learn.

What was your experience at the second and third treatments? Did Rhonda need to reinforce the treatment or did she move on to another aspect of your life/health?
We talked about emotional stuff, and she did hands on again. Told me stuff about myself, some was emotional, some was about my childhood.

If you were involved in a 12-step program before, do you feel the need to continue with it?
No.

How did this compare to other treatments? Was stopping drinking easier through this process easy compared to other things you’ve tried?
This worked.

Did Rhonda provide you with helpful information beyond stopping the cravings for alcohol?
She confirmed some things. What she tells you is only significant for you—it’s like trying to explain a joke to another person. Or a dream. It’s not significant when you try to explain it to someone else, but it has great meaning for you.

How long has it been since your last treatment? Have you had any cravings for alcohol?
It’s been since October. No cravings since at all. I will say that I do have cravings for some unknown thing, but I don’t know what it is. Maybe sugar. She told me foods I should stay away from and things that I’m probably allergic to. I follow her advice really religiously after the alcohol.

Four months later I went back to Rhonda for smoking. Smoking didn’t work on the first visit. On my second appointment for smoking, I got lost on the way to see her—that’s how badly I wanted to keep on smoking. I’d been smoking for 30 years since I was 11 and smoked 2+ packs a day. A week later, the second appointment, it did work. I called up a few days after the first appointment and said to Barry, "It didn’t work." And he said, "That’s why we have two appointments."

How has your life and the lives of those close to you changed since you’ve been through this program?
Oh you know, you just move on to the next problem. But life is much better. My kids are very happy. No one wants to watch their mother destroy herself.


PAULA

"Barry and Rhonda,
You are a miracle, an absolute miracle! I was very skeptical about coming to see you. When my sister told me about you I thought to myself, there is no way you could help me. I honestly believed no one could help me.

My background has been a long history of alcohol abuse. I have survived two head-on collisions where I went through the windshield. I survived two treatment centers, several DWI's, a wrecked marriage, and the list goes on. I was at the point in my life that I could not stop drinking. I was going through a difficult time in my relationship with a wonderful man that I lived with for 13 years, my job was stressful and I was losing my best friend. AA was a drag and that program did not seem to help. I drank; I lost and received another DWI.

I guess my sister knew I was at my lowest point and knew that something had to be done. She saw your article in Elle magazine and decided to call. When she told me about you, I thought that you were a fake, another person to take my money and not help me. My sister assured me you were real and it wouldn't hurt just to go see what the program was all about. Really, what have you got to lose? We can make it a vacation. So off we went, bravely, after September 11th.

When I first met you, Rhonda, I really didn't feel any connection. I was still very skeptical. After the first session, I felt good. That evening, I did not want a drink at dinner. The second session, you told me events that happened early in life, people that I knew, etc. I certainly had not talked to you about anything in my life. You told me to go get my lungs x-rayed because it showed scarring. I didn't believe you on that issue, but sure enough, my lungs were scarred. After the third session I was a believer but still skeptical that I would get back home and start drinking again.

I went to see Rhonda on February 8, 2002. I am happy to announce that I have not had a drink since then. I still have urges to drink, but they last only a minute, then I forget about them. I am eating healthier and feel much better. I guess the only downfall is I have this craving for sweets. I guess a few pounds is better than killing someone or myself!

I was a hopeless case and everyone had given up on me. I thank you, Rhonda, for giving me back my life! If you ever need a testimonial, I am the one. I am your miracle!
L. Hodges, Austin, TX

It has been 2 years to the day, I have not had a drink. This is will be my first testimonial ever written.

I am not sure how or what Ms. Lenair (Self) does but it works. The experience is not just what is ailing you, it is moving as a whole. The experience at the Lenair clinic has forever changed me for the better. I am clear and balanced to 'do' in life, take action.
I will forever be humbled by the enlightenment I received and will always pass it along.
Thank you,
J. Anderson, Ohio

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